Sonntag, 18. September 2016

the main function is the production of a physical substance - the sperm

The human machine and its functions are very limited. If it is not spoilt, if it is normal and natural, its business and main function is the production of a physical substance, the male and female seed, the sperm. Breathing, eating, thinking, sleep and so on exist for the production of this physical substance, seed, sperm. It is very important not to connect this with its fruit, i.e., child, descendants.

If we take the human machine and consider the question of food as cause, then the effect of food will be the sperm. It is not the moment to speak in detail about cause and effect. We will at the moment confine ourselves to saying that if the question of food is important for a man, the question of sex is equally so. A rightly working machine is one which justifies its construction. It is possible to judge approximately of the right work of the machine by the quantity of sperm it produces. If sperm is not produced, this means that the machine is not in order. We are now speaking of the correct working of the machine. This also is indispensable for our aims and intentions and possible achievements, for they depend on whether the machine works rightly. Our aim is to have a sound machine and one of its main and indispensable parts is that of sex.

Consequently at the beginning of work on oneself, it is necessary to turn our attention to the question of sex as being one of the main problems. This is why i intend to tackle this problem without delay from the very beginning. Since it is a long business, we will speak about details later and will consider the question both theoretically and practically to establish with all possible exactitude the means for bringing the machine to its proper state.

In the meantime in every machine, if it is being fed, this matter (sperm) is produced. This particular matter is deposited and stored in a definite place In the organism and from time to time in a normal machine this place must be evacuated in order to be refilled. There are two ways of evacuating this place; it can be done either through sexual intercourse, or by transforming this matter into a different kind of matter by will power, using the possibilities given us. But for the second method, for transforming this substance into another kind of substance, we have at present neither the power nor the possibility, for in order to be able to use this substance when we need energy or power, we must first acquire other qualities and powers. And in order to acquire the necessary possibilities we must correct the working of the machine to insure a normal process.

Again, owing to wrong upbringing, a wrong way of living and wrong circumstances, in the case of the majority the state of affairs in this respect is very distressing and needs serious examination. In order to be able to work normally on oneself one must not forget to do what is possible for this process to proceed normally. Since this is the way we are made, for the time being it is necessary from time to time to have normal sexual relations. That time depends on the person, so there are no rules about this. As far as such times are concerned is a question I shall leave to the judgment of our doctors who will explain things to each person. So for this purpose single men should from time to time go to Paris. I advise those of you who intend to work in earnest to look at this question seriously. Everyone must remember that this part of the machine can have a serious braking effect on the general work of the machine. Some people have not the material possibilities (money) for these trips, but since the Institute takes a serious view of the situation, Those who intend to work productively will be given the necessary money.

At this point we must speak about one important question, about possible abnormal inner or outer relationships between members of the Institute, due to the abnormalities we have spoken about in the Institute there are neither men nor women, there are only members of the Institute. It is a sacred duty of everyone to establish a wholehearted blood brotherhood between members, Every woman of the Institute must be looked upon either as a sister or a mother. I say this because there are certain things which I have noticed, Now I warn you that starting from today, if even inwardly your attitude is not as to a mother or a sister, if I notice even a secret thought - and let no one doubt that we shall dig out what is within - then without any further conversation I shall be obliged to throw that person out of the Institute within the hour and everyone should do the same. This rule applies to everybody without exception, no matter who they are. I shall let bygones be bygones, but from this moment it will be our sacred duty. This question must be of equal importance with our whole aim. It must be so. If it cannot be, then nothing else can be.

All I have said can be condensed into two points: Sexual relations are to be considered indispensable and I shall provide a way out of the situation to everyone, whether rich or poor. And second - starting from today, begin to train your machine to feet and be conscious of the sisterly and brotherly relationship between members of the Institute.

Now all the doctors should meet together to make themselves familiar with the details of this question and to establish the subjective times required by every mam. Starting from tomorrow, we will begin to make out historiometric sheets and so will gradually find out what repairs are required in this matter, after which by degrees we shall come to the question of the repairs themselves.

Gurdjieff talk on Sex
28. January 1923

Montag, 10. November 2014

Man has Aspiration

Man have one thing that not exist in woman ever: what you call 'aspiration'. In life, man use this thing - this
aspirationfor many things, all wrong for his life, but must use because have such need. Man - not woman - climb mountains, go under oceans, fly in air, because must do such thing. Impossible for him not to do; cannot resist this. Look at life around you: Man write music, man paint pictures, write books, all such things. Is way, he think, find Heaven for self."

Man who can learn how to achieve higher self - how go to proper Heaven - can use all this aspiration for development of self, for what you call immortality.

Not necessary for woman do work of man in world. If woman can find real man, then woman become real woman without necessity work. But, like I tell, world mixed up. Today in world real man not exist, so woman even try to become man, do man's work which is wrong for her nature.
Fritz Peters - Boyhood with Gurdjieff

Montag, 3. Juni 2013

Men are logical, women are not logical

You not understand; they do not say what they really feel. Men are logical, women not logical. You make mistake because you expect a woman to react as a man would react. Men are men. Women are women.

Nott - Teachings of Gurdjieff p.113

A man should not be dominated by a wife or a mistress

Gurdjieff constantly reminded us, in all sorts of ways, that ‘dabbel is also necessary’, but that we must not remain passive and allow ourselves to be the slave of our denying part, our negative emotions. He said that we must not become the slave of our passive part as represented by a woman. A man should not be dominated by a wife or a mistress.

Nott - Teachings of Gurdjieff p.98

Sonntag, 21. April 2013

Padgi and Kardavate

There exists, pertinent to this, in Asia an original thing. Over there one calls the wife Fatma. But when she has a child, her husband calls her Padgi, that is to say, "sister," and the wife calls her husband Kardavate, that is to say, "brother." They are named brother and sister, they are not longer husband and wife. It is absurd and at the same time it teaches. And this comes to us from very remote times. (9. December 1943)

sacrifice for children

I am going again to explain to you among other things, something oriental. When a child arrives, after this moment the father and mother must figure that life is finished for them; their life, their satisfactions, all is sacrificed for their children. They do everything for their children and refuse themselves everything. They are father and mother, their life is finished. Their aim is their child, they must do all for him, even kill, even steal, some bad actions—for their children. (9. December 1943)

Sonntag, 7. April 2013

French are in reality very moral people

He then launched into a detailed description of the sexual habits of various races and nations, during the course of which he pointed out that while the French had a world-wide reputation for amorous prowess, it would be well for the people present to make a note of the fact that those highly civilized French used such words as “Mama” and “Mimi” to describe some of their unnatural and perverted sexual practices. He added, however, that in all justice to the French they were, in reality, very moral people and sexually mis­understood and misrepresented.

Dienstag, 5. März 2013

the Age of Maturity according to Gurdjieff

From this time on, that is, from the moment the process of his development is finished, a man becomes personally responsible for all his voluntary and involuntary manifestations. According to laws of nature elucidated and verified through many centuries of observation by people of pure reason, this process of development is finished in males between the ages of twenty and twenty-three, and in females between the ages of fifteen and nineteen, depending on the geographical conditions of the place of their arising and formation.

Meetings with Remarkable Men / Chapter "My first Tutor"

consequences of sex before adulthood

Gurdjieff also insisted that achieving an orgasm before reaching adulthood had serious consequences on an adolescent’s mental development: “If even once the sensation of the climax of what is called the ‘Ooomonvanosi process’ occurs in what is called the “nervous system” of their children before they reach majority, they will already never have the full possibility of normal mentation when they become adults.”

Gurdjieffs Sexual Beliefs and Practices


Concerning sexual desire, he once told me the following: "If a youth but once gratify this lust before reaching adulthood, then the same would happen to him as happened to the historical Esau, who for a single mess of pottage sold his birthright, that is, the welfare of his whole life; because if a youth yields to this temptation even once, he will lose for the rest of his life the possibility of being a man of real worth."

Meetings with Remarkable Men / Chapter "My first Tutor"

Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2013

transformation of sexual energy

His teaching about the transformation of the sexual energy is very personal and he was emphatic that there are no general rules that can be given. In some cases he regarded abstinence as desirable, in others encouraged strong sexual activity; in some cases self-control, in others the devotion of one man and one woman to the creation of one single soul between them. In some cases, he demanded at least for a time a completely promiscuous sexual life in order to rid a man with obsession with sex . . . Gurdjieff did not wish to give any rules that people would take to be universally valid and that could lead not only to misunderstanding but even to disaster.

J.G. Bennett - Making a New World p. 223-224.

Sonntag, 17. Februar 2013

Sexual Initiation of female Pupils

There was a tendency on the part of some of the women to convey the impression that only women could really understand him and only those women who had slept with him were really initiated into his work.

John G. Bennett Gurdjieff: Making a New World p. 232

Dienstag, 5. Februar 2013

love of sex, love of feeling

There is the love of sex, which is ordinarily known as “love” between men and women—when this disappears a man and a woman no longer “love” each other.

There is love of feeling, which evokes the opposite and makes people suffer. Later, we will talk about conscious love.

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Question: ‘Why is it that men are so often attracted to women who make them suffer? And women, of course, by men in the same way?’

Gurdjieff: ‘Think over what I said about love of feeling.’

Teachings of Gurdjieff p.23